The Sunday Times reports:
NEW anti-terrorism laws are to be pushed through before Tony Blair leaves office giving “wartime” powers to the police to stop and question people.
John Reid, the home secretary, who is also quitting next month, intends to extend Northern Ireland’s draconian police powers to interrogate individuals about who they are, where they have been and where they are going.
Under the new laws, police will not need to suspect that a crime has taken place and can use the power to gain information about “matters relevant” to terror investigations.
If suspects fail to stop or refuse to answer questions, they could be charged with a criminal offence and fined up to £5,000. Police already have the power to stop and search people but they have no right to ask for their identity and movements.
No general police power to stop and question has ever been introduced in mainland Britain except during wartime.
Civil liberties campaigners last night branded the proposed measures “one of the most significant moves on civil liberties since the second world war”.
Ironically, the stop and question power is soon to be repealed in Northern Ireland as part of the peace agreement. Home Office officials admitted, however, that the final wording of the new power to stop and question in the rest of the UK might have to include a requirement for reasonable suspicion.
Blair, meanwhile, criticized judges for “emasculating his antiterrorism legislation.” In an article for The Sunday Times, “he condemns those who say ‘civil liberties come first’ before the security of the population. “I believe this is a dangerous misjudgment,” writes Blair.
A major misjudgement? In the socialist’s view perhaps, not in my opinion. It seems to me that civil liberties always come first: the biggest danger to the individual is the government. A government that thinks it should protect its people by ignoring civil liberties is one dangerous government. That is exactly how totalitarian governments came into existence: slowly but surely they destroyed all civil liberties, until none were left.
And this is exactly why we can’t have socialists fighting the war on terrorism. At the moment socialists are in power, they will destroy everything that made Western Europe great. Freedom from random government intrusion is, in reality, an English invention.
Magna Carta anyone?
Will the British let this happen?
Here is Tony Blair’s column. Go and read it. Blair writes:
We should remember that consistently over the past few years, and even after July 7, attempts to introduce stronger powers have been knocked back in parliament and in the courts.
And mostly they are good decisions Tony. You might not care much about the freedom your ancestors fought so hard to achieve, but others do. The war on terrorism is a very real war, and one we will be in for decades. We cannot give any government powers like you want for a period of, say, 50 years. If we do that, we can bet that we will never get our freedom back.
After 20 or 30 or 50 years, does one actually believe that, in this case the British government will say “ok, great, we won the war on terror, here are your civil liberties back”?
More:
As for British nationals who pose a threat to us, we need to be able to monitor them carefully and limit their activities. It is true that the police and security services can engage in surveillance in any event. But this is incredibly time-consuming and expensive, and even with the huge investment we have made since 2001, they simply cannot do it for all suspects. Over the past five or six years, we have decided as a country that except in the most limited of ways, the threat to our public safety does not justify changing radically the legal basis on which we confront this extremism.
Their right to traditional civil liberties comes first. I believe this is a dangerous misjudgment. This extremism, operating the world over, is not like anything we have faced before. It needs to be confronted with every means at our disposal. Tougher laws in themselves help, but just as crucial is the signal they send out: that Britain is an inhospitable place to practise this extremism.
Of course you believe that the community comes first, that’s because you’re a socialist. Traditional liberals like myself believe that society as a whole is served best (in the long run) if we put the individual first. Socialists don’t, they believe that, if considered necessary or useful, the individual should be sacrificed to serve the (interest of the) community.
See the Soviet Union for evidence.
Lastly, Blair’s conclusion:
This extremism can be defeated. But it will be defeated only by recognising that we have not created it; it cannot be negotiated with; pandering to its sense of grievance will only encourage it; and only by confronting it, the methods and the ideas, will we win.
I agree completely and that means that we have to be ourselves, that we should not give up our freedom, that we should act out of conviction and passion for liberty, not out of fear. This means that we have to fight this war as liberal democracies: it would be terribly ironic if we surrender our rights, our civil liberties, in a war meant to protect those very same liberties.
To the British: Blair wants to take your civil liberties away, it is that simple. He openly admits it in this column.
Perhaps time to vote Labor out of power?