So What About Immigration and Border Security?

June 18th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags:

We’ll do a daily series on serious topics. Every time we outline the plans of both John McCain and Barack Obama on a given subject, and then ask you what you think about the issue of the day. Do you agree with Obama or McCain. Or do you disagree with both? If so, what do you suggest? Lets have a discussion on things that actually matter. Give us at PoliGazette an idea of where our readers stand. And let each other know where you stand. For without communicating your views clearly, it’s unlikely that anything will change.

Today’s issue of the day is immigration and border security.

Here is Senator Barack Obama’s plan:

Create Secure Borders

Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.

Improve Our Immigration System

Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.

Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally

Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.

Bring People Out of the Shadows

Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

Work with Mexico

Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.

Here is Senator John McCain’s plan:

I have always believed that our border must be secure and that the federal government has utterly failed in its responsibility to ensure that it is secure. If we have learned anything from the recent immigration debate, it is that Americans have little trust that their government will honor a pledge to do the things necessary to make the border secure.

As president, I will secure the border. I will restore the trust Americans should have in the basic competency of their government. A secure border is an essential element of our national security. Tight border security includes not just the entry and exit of people, but also the effective screening of cargo at our ports and other points of entry.

But a secure border will contribute to addressing our immigration problem most effectively if we also:

Recognize the importance of building strong allies in Mexico and Latin America who reject the siren call of authoritarians like Hugo Chavez, support freedom and democracy, and seek strong domestic economies with abundant economic opportunities for their citizens.

Recognize the importance of pro-growth policies — keeping government spending in check, holding down taxes, and cutting unnecessary regulatory burdens — so American businesses can hire and pay the best.

Recognize the importance of a flexible labor market to keep employers in business and our economy on top. It should provide skilled Americans and immigrants with opportunity. Our education system should ensure skills for our younger workers, and our retraining and assistance programs for displaced workers must be modernized so they can pursue those opportunities

Recognize the importance of assimilation of our immigrant population, which includes learning English, American history and civics, and respecting the values of a democratic society.

Recognize that America will always be that “shining city upon a hill,” a beacon of hope and opportunity for those seeking a better life built on hard work and optimism.

Border security and our failed immigration system are more examples of an ailing Washington culture in need of reform to regain the trust of Americans. In too many areas — from immigration and pork barrel spending to Social Security, health care, energy security and tax relief — business-as-usual politics prevents addressing the important challenges facing our nation.

Whose plan sounds better to you? If you don’t fully agree with either plan, what do you suggest?

Tomorrow’s issue of the day is Iraq.

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  1. Claudia, Assistant Editor
    June 18th, 2008 at 18:14
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    Wow, Obama is the one accused of being to vague and sweeping, but at least in this case he’s the one staying on-topic. McCains plan seems to consist in "Fix America, and that’ll fix immigration!" and goes off into tax-cutting, deregulation and being tough on disliked governments, which have little to do with immigration themselves.

    I like Obama’s plan best, but only because McCain doesn’t appear to have an actual plan to speak of. If he does, I’ll consider it. Personally I think that the "Remove incentives to Enter Illegaly" and the "Bring People Out of the Shadows" are in direct contradiction to one another, though I DO think that cracking down hard on illegal employers is important.

    Personally, I tend to not listen much to immigration speeches by politicians because I tend to assume that they are ALL lying to be until proven otherwise. Yes, that includes Obama. Politicians have been promising to control immigration since it became an issue (over 100 years ago?) and they always fail to do so. So if one actually does something, I’ll be pleasantly surprised, but until then, it’s all false platitudes to me.

  2. Chris
    June 18th, 2008 at 20:21
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    First of all I’m much more liberal on immigration issues than either candidate.  Having said that, I will still judge based on past experience and not campaign statements.  Given that, I believe John McCain has consistently and actively sought some congressional action to improve our present situation.  The far right proposes "solutions" that do nothing.  At times the left will propose solutions that haven’t a snowballs chance in…  John McCain has, in spite of clear harm to his political ambitions, pursued legislation that his party’s "base" have viewed as "amnesty".  Here in AZ he’s received a lot of flak from his own party for this stand.  I agree with his response that doing nothing furthers the problem (and only hammering away at strict enforcement and "sending them all back" does nothing).

    For me the bigger question, given that GW Bush was pushing immigration reform and got no where, does either candidate position make any difference.  And now that the Dems control both houses and will likely increase their hold, I’m still waiting for them do "get something done"!

  3. Bruce Nolan
    June 18th, 2008 at 21:32
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    More imigration, more differences, more new ideas for a better life

    I say this i live this…Others just booooooooooring…

  4. Chris, I tend to agree with your view on immigration. But, there is a problem; the far right will have influence on McCain, if for nothing else than because if he alienates them, the other members of his administration have no chance whatsoever of being elected into office in the future.

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