Comments on: Tancredo and the Pope http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/ News and Analysis from Different Moderate Perspectives Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:22:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: thecatholicatheist.blogspot.com http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43583 thecatholicatheist.blogspot.com Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:18:49 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43583 The Catholic Church has sacrificed institutional solvency for community outrach generation after generation. Of couse, in some communities myopic clergy and closed-minded parishioners may alienate more historic  populations, but indeed, one is far, far more likely to see churches that hold three-vunacular (or more!) masses on Sunday morning rather than ignore the language needs of their community. Further, as a Catholic school teacher it seems apparent that the spirit of the Catholic faith to help, "generations of immigrants to rise from poverty and take their place in mainstream society" is still alive and well. The South-side of Chicago is home to scores of black, Catholic schools where the majority (if not nearly all) of their students are Protestant, and in this way the Church does not conflate its identity into a club.   The Catholic Church has sacrificed institutional solvency for community outrach generation after generation. Of couse, in some communities myopic clergy and closed-minded parishioners may alienate more historic  populations, but indeed, one is far, far more likely to see churches that hold three-vunacular (or more!) masses on Sunday morning rather than ignore the language needs of their community. Further, as a Catholic school teacher it seems apparent that the spirit of the Catholic faith to help, "generations of immigrants to rise from poverty and take their place in mainstream society" is still alive and well. The South-side of Chicago is home to scores of black, Catholic schools where the majority (if not nearly all) of their students are Protestant, and in this way the Church does not conflate its identity into a club.  

]]> By: Rob http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43552 Rob Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:52:47 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43552 Perhaps Tom could explain how people moving from an almost exclusively Catholic country to a largely protestant one where they leave the church in large numbers grows the Church. Those who don't convert may increase the size of the <em>American</em> Church, but the Pope is the Pope of the worldwide (Catholic) Church. Perhaps Tom could explain how people moving from an almost exclusively Catholic country to a largely protestant one where they leave the church in large numbers grows the Church. Those who don’t convert may increase the size of the American Church, but the Pope is the Pope of the worldwide (Catholic) Church.

]]> By: Bob http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43438 Bob Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:52:52 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43438 The above article includes this:"...the U.S. Catholic Church has traditionally been an immigrant church, helping to settle and assimilate generations of Irish, Polish and Italian newcomers..." Unfortunately, the Catholic church in this country no longer makes its traditional efforts to aid and encourage this assimilation. In my community, the church has gone out of its way to pander to the (mostly Hispanic) immigrant population, and now holds most of its masses and other church functions in Spanish, ultimately alienating its traditional core congregation of English speaking people from all cultures, including Irish, Italian, German, and the like. There is never a suggestion from the local church hierarchy for the Spanish-speaking members to become a part of our community in language, or in any other way. The Pope needs to begin encouraging these people to immigrate to Vatican City instead, and see just how long his infrastructure can support those who seek health care, housing, education, etc., without paying for these services. The above article includes this:”…the U.S. Catholic Church has traditionally been an immigrant church, helping to settle and assimilate generations of Irish, Polish and Italian newcomers…”

Unfortunately, the Catholic church in this country no longer makes its traditional efforts to aid and encourage this assimilation.

In my community, the church has gone out of its way to pander to the (mostly Hispanic) immigrant population, and now holds most of its masses and other church functions in Spanish, ultimately alienating its traditional core congregation of English speaking people from all cultures, including Irish, Italian, German, and the like. There is never a suggestion from the local church hierarchy for the Spanish-speaking members to become a part of our community in language, or in any other way.

The Pope needs to begin encouraging these people to immigrate to Vatican City instead, and see just how long his infrastructure can support those who seek health care, housing, education, etc., without paying for these services.

]]> By: Chris http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43339 Chris Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:54:51 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2008/04/22/tancredo-and-the-pope/#comment-43339 Maybe Tom will run for Pope? Maybe Tom will run for Pope?

]]>
Warning: is_writable() [function.is-writable]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(error_log) is not within the allowed path(s): (/home/p6525pol:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php:/tmp) in /home/p6525pol/public_html/wp-includes/wp-db.php on line 500