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I’d like to rant, rave and yell at all those EU members of parliament who had the gall to criticize the Turkish military for its statement of warning to the AKP last April. 

Either EU parliamentarians are stupid and ignorant or they are evil.  Take your pick.  Neither reflects well on them or Europeans.

The Turkish military’s statement last April was in response to the AKP’s stated position that after the first two failed votes for the presidency, the AKP would, in contravention of the Turkish Constitution, declare the winner whoever obtained a simple majority in the third vote President (the first two votes failed under the constitution because there was no quorum–this the AKP, the EU and the Bush administration was willing to ignore–quorum schmorum).

Despite early signs that the AKP has no respect for Turkey’s constitution or its democratic processes, EU parliamentarians and the U.S. Bush administration (this should say something) supported the AKP.  Despite millions of Turks protesting in the street against religious fundamentalism throughout the entire Republic of Turkey last April through June, the EU and Americans supported the religious fundamentalists (who by the way, turned away women who weren’t wearing the hijab from some polling stations, how’s that for AKP style democracy?  Do you really think the party leaders don’t know that was going on?).

Whatever games are being played in the west, the Turkish military, which is the most respected institution in the country, will not allow Turkey to be partitioned by European support for the terrorist PKK, spurious genocide claims promoted by Armenian, Greek, Kurdish, Yezidi, Assyrian and whoever else wants to try to join the genocide gravy train or jihadis.

It’s time for Turkey to trash the application for the EU.  Stay independent and true to Ataturk’s reforms.  At least we know that Ataturk’s intentions were for the good of his people, whereas we know Europe’s and America’s are not.

I don’t despise Europeans or Americans, but your politicians play hypocritical games with the lives of millions of people as though they are readily expendible and I’m sick of it.

Michael - Things are spiraling out of control.   The AKP is wildly lashing out in every direction imaginable to maintain its grip on power.  This is the closest the fundies have ever come to revoking secularism in Turkey since 1923. 

I suspect that if things continue at even just the same pace at which they’ve occurred during the last week, we’re going to see someone or some entity make a big move very soon (before the end of the week even).  Even TUSIAD issued a statement today about the regime crisis.

Buyukanit has credibility that no one else in a position of power has.  He may be old, but he has earned the respect of the nation and the people, they will follow him.  Once things are not in crisis mode, we can talk about a younger leader. 

Right now the main objective is to have someone who is mentally stable and secular.  But the mess put in place by the AKP (all its jihadi appointments) must be cleaned up first.

What about Mustafa Sarigül?

Anyway, I think if the AK Parti gets closed, I’d presume there would be re-elections and moderate right wing parties would get a majority in the new parliament.

Cafer - Go and pray for your party because they have shown their true colors now and their end is near.

As for the "economy" the AKP has created, it’s not real.  They’ve propped up the economy by selling off the nation’s assets.  What will they do when it’s all gone and there’s no more "income" to be had because everything of value in the country has been sold to foreignors?  Maybe then they can start selling people like you to the west.

AKP is as clean as mud.  Tell us, exactly how did Erdogan become a billionaire?  The AKP has put three newspapers under investigation, arrested 14 people along with an 85 year old journalist with heart problems and accused him of conspiring with others to mount a coup against the AKP.  The AKP silences all opposition, their lackeys push women to cover up, throw acid on their legs if their skirts are too short, beat up men whose hair is too long for their taste–that is AKP style "democracy".  What a joke.

Michael very well covered and I too would support you for finding a fresher younger, more courageous leader other than General BAnit to the contrary of  Lazlee’s  well deserved loyalty to him. To my judgment General BAnit made two big mistakes. To be more correct, we can attribute one mistake as being passive or mute during the most critical two weeks when Mr. Gul’s candidacy is being speculated. RTE was trying to sense the environment with a cunning alertness to the reactions that might have come from the secular circles and mostly from the army. Yet we have not heard a single comment, a personal note, or anything of that sort to discourage AKP to drop Gul’s candidacy. It is such an important key position that everyone knows that if lost to such a proven unsecular, untrustworthy person that all these hard  gains of Kemalist ideology over many decades could be harmed severely. Yet not a single word that can divert the listening ears. To me the turning point in recent Turkish political history towards today’s chaotic initiation stage began by allowing Mr. Gul to take the post so easily. Second mistake was the lack of foresight in declaring the end of PKK assault right after it was preached by Mr. Gates. Even though I truly believe the sincerity of he General BAnit on this, I’d have expected the end of major  military action vs PKK to be planned, communicated and executed much better.  I hope that Turkey would find her long awaited leader that is desperately needed who knows how to fight and destruct AKP and its mindset on democratic grounds soon, perhaps much sooner than that. 

and i personally support civil democracy!

Actually none of my comments were racist towards Turks or Non-Turkish people. But cheers on taking a page from the Chinese guide on how to silence any vocal opposition.
Now you guys can all high five each other!
Congratulations