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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/26/make-straight-the-way-of-the-barack/#comment-27584</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, michael, and if I crossed the snark line I apologize as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, michael, and if I crossed the snark line I apologize as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Obamessiah</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/26/make-straight-the-way-of-the-barack/#comment-27511</link>
		<dc:creator>Obamessiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, ye of little faith . . . 

http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com</description>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley:  You know what?  I am in an intemperate mood right now, so I apologize for getting bitchy.  I don't get over the jet-lag as quickly as I used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley:  You know what?  I am in an intemperate mood right now, so I apologize for getting bitchy.  I don&#8217;t get over the jet-lag as quickly as I used to.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/26/make-straight-the-way-of-the-barack/#comment-27508</link>
		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, they didn't &#34;bring up religion,&#34; Michelle half-quoted a Bible verse that's a commonplace of the language.  

Democrats' objections are generally to the violation of a reasonable separation of Church and State.   Hell, I quote Bible verses and I'm an atheist.  In fact, I've often quoted the precise verse in question.  (It makes me sound moral.)

Thanks for the invite, dude, but I am neck-deep in work right now.  I've got a 700 page manuscript that needs rewriting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, they didn&#8217;t &quot;bring up religion,&quot; Michelle half-quoted a Bible verse that&#8217;s a commonplace of the language.  </p>
<p>Democrats&#8217; objections are generally to the violation of a reasonable separation of Church and State.   Hell, I quote Bible verses and I&#8217;m an atheist.  In fact, I&#8217;ve often quoted the precise verse in question.  (It makes me sound moral.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the invite, dude, but I am neck-deep in work right now.  I&#8217;ve got a 700 page manuscript that needs rewriting.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;LETS NOT DO WHAT THAT CLINTON SUPPORTER DID TO HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO SUPPORTS OBAMA!!!!

&lt;/em&gt;Couldn't resist. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>LETS NOT DO WHAT THAT CLINTON SUPPORTER DID TO HIS BROTHER-IN-LAW WHO SUPPORTS OBAMA!!!!</p>
<p></em>Couldn&#8217;t resist. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/26/make-straight-the-way-of-the-barack/#comment-27453</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because unnamed Democrats criticize unnamed Republicans on unspsecified occasions for overusing the Bible, it follows that Michelle Obama referencing a Bible quote is passing herself off as John the Baptist?&lt;/blockquote&gt; Sorry, michael, I didn't realize that there might be people such as yourself who perhaps have never heard of hyperbole (hmm, what was that post you wrote- which I found hysterically funny, BTW- about the three wings of the GOP?)

And as for your characterization of what the GOP is doing right now in the campaign, what can you point to in Obama's campaign that's any more substantive? Would it be Michelle giving speeches about his inspiring biography, or would it be the attempts to hamstring McCain on campaign funding? Or if we stick to the Dem primary campaign, maybe it's the arguments over who put out the photos of Obama wearing funny clothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because unnamed Democrats criticize unnamed Republicans on unspsecified occasions for overusing the Bible, it follows that Michelle Obama referencing a Bible quote is passing herself off as John the Baptist?</p></blockquote>
<p> Sorry, michael, I didn&#8217;t realize that there might be people such as yourself who perhaps have never heard of hyperbole (hmm, what was that post you wrote- which I found hysterically funny, BTW- about the three wings of the GOP?)</p>
<p>And as for your characterization of what the GOP is doing right now in the campaign, what can you point to in Obama&#8217;s campaign that&#8217;s any more substantive? Would it be Michelle giving speeches about his inspiring biography, or would it be the attempts to hamstring McCain on campaign funding? Or if we stick to the Dem primary campaign, maybe it&#8217;s the arguments over who put out the photos of Obama wearing funny clothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, Michael. Want to bring up Mike Huckabee? Wasn't the dubbed the fundamentalist loon? And... it's not exactly the first time Michelle (or Barack) uses religious rhetoric for political purposes. That's not &lt;em&gt;per definition wrong&lt;/em&gt;, but it's interesting that the party that normally so strongly objects to religion in politics doesn't have a problem with it when Obama's the one doing it.

This also goes for when people say they oppose legalizing abortion out of religious reasons (Dems object; religion and politics don't mix!), yet they sometimes defend their own programs by... (referring to) religion. So I can understand the feeling some have that there's a double standard at work here.

As it is, though, I agree that this particular quote was pretty mild. If that's the worst, well, there ain't no problem (and there might not be a problem at that). 

As for negativity: I agree with that. If people want to vote for McCain they would be wise to spend a bit of time saying why McCain is a good choice / better than Obama, not just why Obama is no good. 

Above all though, I think it's important for people here to respect each other's point of view. We have some bloggers who strongly oppose Obama (I'm one of them), but we also have co-bloggers who (strongly) support Obama.

Talking about which: this friday, Jason will explain why he supports Obama (at least for the Democratic nomination, and possibly for the presidency in general). You'd like to be on that radio show as well to talk about Obama and the reaction of the right to him nowadays? Starts at 2PM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, Michael. Want to bring up Mike Huckabee? Wasn&#8217;t the dubbed the fundamentalist loon? And&#8230; it&#8217;s not exactly the first time Michelle (or Barack) uses religious rhetoric for political purposes. That&#8217;s not <em>per definition wrong</em>, but it&#8217;s interesting that the party that normally so strongly objects to religion in politics doesn&#8217;t have a problem with it when Obama&#8217;s the one doing it.</p>
<p>This also goes for when people say they oppose legalizing abortion out of religious reasons (Dems object; religion and politics don&#8217;t mix!), yet they sometimes defend their own programs by&#8230; (referring to) religion. So I can understand the feeling some have that there&#8217;s a double standard at work here.</p>
<p>As it is, though, I agree that this particular quote was pretty mild. If that&#8217;s the worst, well, there ain&#8217;t no problem (and there might not be a problem at that). </p>
<p>As for negativity: I agree with that. If people want to vote for McCain they would be wise to spend a bit of time saying why McCain is a good choice / better than Obama, not just why Obama is no good. </p>
<p>Above all though, I think it&#8217;s important for people here to respect each other&#8217;s point of view. We have some bloggers who strongly oppose Obama (I&#8217;m one of them), but we also have co-bloggers who (strongly) support Obama.</p>
<p>Talking about which: this friday, Jason will explain why he supports Obama (at least for the Democratic nomination, and possibly for the presidency in general). You&#8217;d like to be on that radio show as well to talk about Obama and the reaction of the right to him nowadays? Starts at 2PM.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C Stanley:
So, let's walk the logic through here.  Because unnamed Democrats criticize unnamed Republicans on unspsecified occasions for overusing the Bible, it follows that Michelle Obama referencing a Bible quote is passing herself off as John the Baptist?

You know what's most interesting about the current line-of-attack on Mr. Obama?  The GOP and Hillary are singing the identical tune.  And you know what's even more interesting?  Republican commenters spend 90% of their time regurgitating this silly meme, and no more than 10% of their time touting their own candidate.

Why do you suppose that is?  Do Republicans actually imagine they are making progress in this race by studiously avoiding supporting Mr. McCain while making transparently idiotic (and unoriginal) snarks at Mr. Obama?

This is what they've got?  That Mr. Obama gives a good speech and his supporters look up to him?  What is that?  Jealousy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C Stanley:<br />
So, let&#8217;s walk the logic through here.  Because unnamed Democrats criticize unnamed Republicans on unspsecified occasions for overusing the Bible, it follows that Michelle Obama referencing a Bible quote is passing herself off as John the Baptist?</p>
<p>You know what&#8217;s most interesting about the current line-of-attack on Mr. Obama?  The GOP and Hillary are singing the identical tune.  And you know what&#8217;s even more interesting?  Republican commenters spend 90% of their time regurgitating this silly meme, and no more than 10% of their time touting their own candidate.</p>
<p>Why do you suppose that is?  Do Republicans actually imagine they are making progress in this race by studiously avoiding supporting Mr. McCain while making transparently idiotic (and unoriginal) snarks at Mr. Obama?</p>
<p>This is what they&#8217;ve got?  That Mr. Obama gives a good speech and his supporters look up to him?  What is that?  Jealousy?</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is Michelle Obama the first political wife to quote the Bible?  Do Republicans not obsessively quote the Bible?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;And do not Democrats and left leaning Indies obsessively criticize them for doing so? While ignoring all Dems who use Christian messenging or campaign from church pulpits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is Michelle Obama the first political wife to quote the Bible?  Do Republicans not obsessively quote the Bible?
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<p>And do not Democrats and left leaning Indies obsessively criticize them for doing so? While ignoring all Dems who use Christian messenging or campaign from church pulpits?</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie: 

There's nothing at all plain in your reading.  You're seeing what you wish to see.  You really think, &#34;Because to whom much is given, much is expected,&#34; is evidence that Mrs. Obama thinks she's John the Baptist?

It's a homily from the book of Luke.  It's an injunction to those who have have been given privilege to understand that privilege comes with obligation.  There's nothing remotely messianic there.  Not even a little.   

Mr. Obama was lucky enough to attend Harvard, and now has a very good life.  Mrs. Obama is stating her opinion that because he's been lucky, he has an obligation to others less lucky.  I feel the same obligation myself.  Most decent people do.

Is Michelle Obama the first political wife to quote the Bible?  Do Republicans not obsessively quote the Bible?  Does that make them Johns the Baptist in waiting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie: </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing at all plain in your reading.  You&#8217;re seeing what you wish to see.  You really think, &quot;Because to whom much is given, much is expected,&quot; is evidence that Mrs. Obama thinks she&#8217;s John the Baptist?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a homily from the book of Luke.  It&#8217;s an injunction to those who have have been given privilege to understand that privilege comes with obligation.  There&#8217;s nothing remotely messianic there.  Not even a little.   </p>
<p>Mr. Obama was lucky enough to attend Harvard, and now has a very good life.  Mrs. Obama is stating her opinion that because he&#8217;s been lucky, he has an obligation to others less lucky.  I feel the same obligation myself.  Most decent people do.</p>
<p>Is Michelle Obama the first political wife to quote the Bible?  Do Republicans not obsessively quote the Bible?  Does that make them Johns the Baptist in waiting?</p>
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