Tax Rebates and Stimuli
In a rare show of bi-partisan glad-handing, the House and President Bush have agreed on a so-called economic stimulus package that consists largely of “tax rebates” to be given to individuals earning < $75K per year and couples making < $150K.
From this perspective the plan could be called a tax cut and therefore be considered a good thing. However, the NY Times says that “the stipend of at least $300 would be paid to all workers receiving a paycheck, even those who did not earn enough to pay taxes last year.”
So yes, it’s a tax cut for most of the middle class, but also a giveaway - there’s no other word for it - for those who are either in need or who did nothing to earn the money, depending on your perspective.
John Aravois says the plan is geared towards redistributing wealth without helping the middle class:
That’s because far too often the Democrats don’t give a damn about anybody who isn’t a minority or starving to death (both valid causes to be sure, but are they the ONLY causes out there?). If you’re in the middle, you’re on your own.
And don’t think this is only about a stupid $300. It’s about health care. It’s about education. It’s about every single issue you care about. The powers that be simply aren’t in this to help people in the middle. The Republicans want to help the big pharmaceuticals and the big business hospitals, while the Democrats want to help uninsured poor people and kids. And while all of that’s nice, what are the rest of us supposed to do when our premiums hit $2000 a month and, God forbid, something catastrophic hits us?
I have to wonder, though, exactly who John considers the middle class to be. Virtually everyone would consider a family making $150K a year to be well off, so I’m not sure the characterization of this plan failing to help the middle class is accurate. In the bigger picture his question is a good one; in this case I’m not convinced it’s relevant.
That said, whether so much wealth - my back-of-the-envelope numbers says it’s at least a $40B/year payout - should be redistributed to the middle and lower classes is another question, particularly at a time when the federal budget is in the red to the tune of $300B/year.
2008 is an election year, however, and everyone whose seat is up has to prove their generosity to the folks at home, whether it makes fiscal sense to do so or not. I can name that tune in 3 notes, how ’bout you? Although my family will benefit significantly from this plan should it pass, frankly the familiar melody is a bit flat now. Where is the fiscal responsibility in government?
Indeed, this is the sort of legislation that makes Fred Thompson’s disappointing results in the early primaries a tragedy - he was the only candidate from either party with a reasonable grasp of economic fundamentals.
Of the rest, Mike Huckabee’s Fair Tax plan should be given its due as, if nothing else, a mechanism for introducing transparency into the government’s “revenue collection” process. The IRS code is currently unfathomable for most Americans because of its incredible complexity. It doesn’t have to be that way.
Some have complained that Huckabee’s tax is too light on higher wage earners. Although I am not one of the wealthy, I don’t see that as a problem. Others have said that the tax rate would have to be astronomical by U.S. terms - 30% or higher - to be revenue neutral compared to the current system.
(Comments, anyone? I have not run these numbers…)
What of it? If that’s how much money the government is collecting from us and spending on their giveaways, wouldn’t it be better for every American to know that up front? Then we can feel the pain of our tax burden constantly rather than walking around in the dark all year while hoping to win the 3 Card Monte game on April 15th.










Well, the DJ closed a little over 100 up today, so it certainly wasn’t received as bad news, but obviously not accorded the same impact as the Fed rate cut.
Once the details of the business piece is finalized, that might actually improve GDP, but a one time tax rebate and/or transfer payment is not likely to provide any real contribution except to the extent in this day and age "illusions" are great and powerful things.
It’s not a tax cut.
A tax cut means that our money isn’t taken away from us, circulated through the government, which takes at least half of it, then is given back to us by benevolent government officials.
Take the costs of processing this money from our paycheck back to the check we’ll get and see how much it will cost us. My guess (and this isn’t scientific by any means) is about 600 dollars a person.
And, as you pointed out, must of this money is being given to people who never paid taxes in the first place, which makes it a reckless welfare giveaway of even more of my money.
It’s redistribution of wealth. Hey look, 150,000 isn’t what it used to be. Think of it this way. A family of 5, 3 kids under 6. 25,000 in daycare costs so both parents can work (of which, $1000 can be written off in taxes). $9045 goes to social security (we’ll never see that again). $2,000 goes to medicade. $9600 goes to health care premiums. Property tax= another $6000. State tax - Oregon - $12,000. Federal Tax $20,700. Trimet tax $1000. Add all the other fees and taxes, another 2K a year So right there is $87,845 of my money, that I will never see. Now we’re down to 62,000. Add in food, phone, cable (i know–luxury)electricity, water, gas, mortgage payments, insurance, a modest IRA contribution, and life insurance. I’ve got about 8,000 "discretionary income" to clothe my kids, buy gas, , make car payments, christmas, birthdays, vehicle repairs, maintain my houseshold, entertain, and college savings. Take your same family of 5 that makes 50K, they’ll pay almost no tax, qualify for free lunches (and in my state breakfasts) at school, all 3 kids will be eligible for the head start program (at 8,000 per child 24,000, hmm, same price I pay for childcare without the curiculum), Oregon Health Plan, get a housing subsidy if they don’t own a home, possibly food stamp, free bus passes, low interest loans, their children will get grants and financial aid for college, mine won’t, the list goes on. Add all that up. Now another $2000 out of my pocket into theirs?
Can this be America?
dosvidanya comrades and USA, socialism/communism at it’s best.