Fox Should Not Censor Paul
As we get deeper into the campaign, I do not have a problem with excluding candidates who are not generating any substantial public support. Gravel, I think, was an example of that in the Democratic debates. But I think the Paulbots have a pretty good case for outrage with Ron Paul’s exclusion from the upcoming Republican debate in New Hampshire.
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It was unclear to me until just now whether the real factor here was the NH GOP or Fox News, the sponsor of the debate. But the state party is now calling on Fox not to exclude viable candidates. So, it’s not them. Or if it was, it isn’t now.
So, it’s all about Fox News. Paul’s out because he’s not a Fox News Bush-clone. Say whatever you want about the guy, Fox News shouldn’t be able to silence him because they don’t like his views.
Exactly. Fox is abusing its role as a purveyor of information and should be sharply rebuked for attempting to censor the political debate.
h/t memeorandum
Another example of the corporate elite trying to choose who we elect.
As outraged as I am about Fox’s decision, I think in the end it will benefit Paul.
If anyone wants to know how corrupt our system is, watch this video. No matter who you support this should infuriate you that this can, and does, happen in The United States of America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyvVQYf6XWk
Here’s what FOX doesn’t want you to hear.
The dollar slid across the board on Friday as data showing a 9 percent decline in sales of new U.S. homes last month heightened concern about the economy, putting the greenback on track for its worst week in more than a year.
The housing report, which was weaker than economists had expected, also bolstered the case for more Federal Reserve interest rate cuts in 2008. Earlier this week, the S&P/Case-Shiller index showed a record decline in U.S. home prices in October.
This is what’s happening to YOUR house. All the ‘money’ and ‘equity’ you thought you had saved - eliminated! The equity through falling house prices - and the money because we are DEBASING OUR CURRENCY. That low fed rate you’re reading about gets created by printing money and lending it to people. With more money, the money YOU have is worth LESS. So your money is worth less and your property is worth less - where can you turn to keep ahead of inflation? I think you BETTER turn to Dr. Paul. He’s the ONLY one running that has a HOPE of being able to deal with this.
Ron Paul must be silenced. He’s the only candidate that threatens the monopolistic powers of the mainstream media, the international banking cartel, and two-party system. Unfortunately, this tactic by FOX will only serve to strengthen Ron Paul. The publicity from this snub will make more people curious about Ron Paul — and look into his platform. When they see how reasonable he is, many will be drawn to support him. Meanwhile, Ron’s current supporters will be galvanazized by this futile attempt to muzzle their candidate.
See this hilarious YouTube music video, from the new international award-winning feature film, "Song of the Dead" — a zombie musical, but also a political satire on the president, the MSM, and the war on terror. Horror movie veteran, Reggie Bannister (Phantasm, Wishmaster, Bubba Ho-tep) plays the president. The filmmaker, Chip Gubera, is giving a share of his profits for this anti-war satire to the Ron Paul campaign. See: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qQmkkoxSKYw
Jim January 1, 2008 @ 2:30 am CET"worthless liberal hippies. vote for a real republican like hukabee. he will teach youre sorry asses."Not such a ringing endorsement, Jim.
You have obviously not done much homework on either Huckabee or Ron Paul. If you had you would understand the error of your ways.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that I would trust my money and my family’s safety with. Core Character Counts. I value substance over symbolism.
I vote for virtue; I vote for Ron Paul.
Jim,
I guess I am one of those "worthless liberal hippies" too. Funny that I always considered myself conservative. I suppose I just haven’t been fully brought up to speed by Fox News and Rupert Murdoch as to the current definition of "conservative".
Yes, indeed, I’m just a worthless hippy, just like those damned unpatriotic rebels named Wahington, Jefferson and Adams. How dare they speak against their rightful king! What traitors! I’m sure glad I don’t live in a country that reveres such evil men.
I support Ron Paul and I own a gun.
Do any of the people in office remember their oath was ""I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"
The Constitution, what a novel idea. No wars without a declaration of war. National Sovreignity. A strong currency. The ideas of individual Liberty.
@ Jim: These are not ideas of a worthless liberal hippie, they were the ideas of Thomas Jefferson.
It seems to me that all TV networks received orders to suppress the Ron Paul message and silence his voice.
I observed that none of the ABC, NBC CBS networks even mentioned Ron Paul’s name today. So this is not a Fox only sin. It is TV media wide. They pushed the war on us and do not need Ron Paul to remind them of the blood on their hands. As far as the debates or the forums organized by the GOP and/or TV networks for the Republican Presidential candidates, I think it is a shame that the Republican Party Powers that be even allow the charade of excluding Ron Paul or any other candidate from these forums/debates. Indeed, any candidate who takes part in this attempt to control the American people’s right to freely elect their President betrays their Freedom of choice and reveals their naked attempt to channel the vote outcome in favor of their preferred pro war candidates. Candidates who accepts to participate if Ron Paul or any other candidate is excluded will prove themselves selfish, un-principled, opportunistic, un-democratic, un-American and consequently unworthy of our trust.
Youssif,
One small point:
Democracy is also un-American. Last time I checked, the USA was still a Constutional Republic, which is a very different animal indeed.
We must know and never forget the difference.
I oppose Ron Paul because I disagree with most of his positions and I find many of his supporters downright scary with their conspiracy mongering and their inability to defend any but one or two of Paul’s supposedly brilliant positions.
Nonetheless, namecalling is not welcome here and "Jim" has been banned.
chill out guys, we do not need a fox or any msm forum because either they will leave him alone for at least 40 minutes or they will ask him such silly questions what kind of hat he weared 20 years ago or will you run as an independent so basicly why he should waste his time, you guys need to find and organize a group of the most brainiest computer geeks so they will be able somehow chek out that freaking DIEBOLD voting machine. all your hard work will be last if this motha f… diebold steal your votes, of course there is still even a scearier situation as a possibility- gop state organizer wont let him step on the premises (history could repeat itself specially when they feel cornered by the revolution)
@Jason
Conspiracy mongering? Can you please be more specific about exactly which “conspiracies” Dr. Paul has spoken about?
It seems to be you are just dead wrong here, and this particular line has been taken by equally lesser thinkers.
Is the NA Corridor Highway a “conspiracy”?
Is the Federal Reserve system being layed to bear and made crystal clear by Dr. Paul a “conspiracy”?
Is a common sense foreign policy based on non-interventionism a “conspiracy”.
Come on, Jason, you can do better than ad hominem attacks based on the mainstream medias slurs that you are regurgitating.
Fox "Old Media" news commentaries are rancid like vomit. But I don’t feel they are hurting anyone with their bias views because the torch or liberty is now lit. For freedom is near. My eyes are opened and more and more Americans are opening their eyes to the truth that will set them free. RP’08!
Fair and balanced?
my @$$
Watch Fox ‘news’ rating plummet!
PLUMMET!!!
Thank god…an author who uses his head. This is total bull crap about Fox not interviewing Dr.Paul, and it’s total censorship. They don’t want any of their viewers knowing about Paul because Rupert Murdoch & friends are a bunch of necon a-holes. At least we pressed the NH Republican Party enough to have them back us up. But FOX is getting (and will continue to get) a lot of negative publicity about this if they don’t reverse their decision. I know a bunch of us are going to picket on Saturday in front of their studio in Phoenix,AZ. Keep watch out for news stories.
Attention capitalists: Fox News has a right to air or not air anyone they want to.
However, we have a right to boycott Fox News, contact their advertisers, and sell off shares of the corporation.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/512551/ron_paul_supporters_organizing_news.html
It is contrary to the nature of the movement to seek a government solution to this market problem. We have many tools available for achieving a market solution.
Neocons can lick my jizz.
Seriously, I haven’t seen this much junior highschool level commenting since I swore off über-partisan blogs altogether.
Even when they’re agreeing they are immature!
disclaimer: Robert is, as always, not included.
Lynx, I am truly starting to adore you. BTW, I would love to continue our earlier discussion (in private, if you wish - MvdG can give you my email address) on how these polls are so contradictory. Did you ever see my last reply to you on that subject?
I did see the reply, and after a little thinking (I’m a beginner on these subjects and I have the same love of mathematics that I have of poisonous snakes) I saw what you meant.
Actually, since the DMR poll came out showing Obama ahead for democrats, after everyone initially thought it would show the opposite, and with every single poll showing something different, I’ve decided that I’m only going to take gaping leads seriously in polls, it’s just way too many contradictory numbers. I’ll wait for the election to see how big the support for all the candidates really is.
Lynx,
<< I’ll wait for the election to see how big the support for all the candidates really is. >>
How right you are. I’ll brew us a cup of cocoa (Droste, Michael) while we wait.
Quite right. The problem is of course that it’s so boring to ignore the polls!
Yep. But the polls are becoming increasingly unreliable as the old methodologies break down, and the only poll that really counts is the one tabulated by the election commissioners.
<< The problem is of course that it’s so boring to ignore the polls! >>
No kidding, especially the AOL one. Look at these numbers:
VOTES 464,815 100.00%GOP 243,033 52.29%DEM 221,782 47.71%SPREAD 21,251 4.57%
This has to be the single biggest Straw Poll in the country.
Here’s the problem with the polls. I haven’t voted for a Republican in 20 years. I haven’t voted in a primary in 20 years. So I’m certainly not on their "likely to vote" list, but I changed my voter registration to Republican last week so I can vote for Ron Paul. I’m not only voting this time, it can be 40 degress below and driving snow on election day, and I’ll be out there waving my Ron Paul sign!
"Jason Steck
January 1, 2008 @ 4:32 am CET
I oppose Ron Paul because I disagree with most of his positions and I find many of his supporters downright scary…"
Admit Jason, you don’t like the idea of Israel not getting Americans’ money. PERIOD.
Call Saint Anselm College, where Fox will hold the forum, and ask how they can allow Fox on their campus. Fox’s decision goes against every ideal the College stands for!
http://www.anselm.edu/Ask+Saint+Anselm.htm
Saint Anselm College: (603) 641-7000
Yes, Gene, among the MANY reasons I oppose Ron Paul is his opposition to the protection of our only ally in the Middle East as well as his willing association with and acceptance of support from anti-Semites.
I also find annoying the practice of many of Paul’s fans to accuse everyone they disagree with of being secretly motivated by something other than what the actual topic of the discussion was, just as you did here. Ron Paul’s supporters consistently and loudly display a degree of angry intolerance and hatred towards dissent that belies their professed beliefs. In fact, along with their complete ignorance regarding the vast majority of Paul’s actual positions (most Ron Paul supporters appear incapable of addressing any of Paul’s positions except the Iraq war and, occasionally, some weird conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve or Israel) and the practical issues that they fail to address while chanting their meaningless slogans over and over and over, intolerance and abusiveness has proven to be one of the most consistent characteristics of Paul trolls who spam every blog that shows up on Google after mentioning their Great Leader’s name.
Every time you and your pals behave like this, Gene, you merely serve to increase the contempt that many voters have for your “movement”.
So the best way to save the corrupt political system is by fraudulent partisan registrations in order to corrupt the partisan primaries, eh?
Got it.
Actually, a while ago I posted a link to a web site that was openly asking voters to register Republican to get Ron Paul nominated even if they intended to vote Democrat in the general election. I found it amazing that a “movement” that claimed to want to clean up the system was willing to openly ask voters to be fraudulent about their registration to fulfill their ends.
Of course, when the same people claimed to want the money out of politics while trumpeting their candidate’s fundraising numbers as if they were more important than actual voting and while ignoring their candidate’s record of voting for massive earmarks for his own Congressional district, it made more sense.