Comments on: My, My, Facebook Gives In http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/ Politics and world events from a moderately liberal and conservative perspective Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:35:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Zane http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10665 Zane Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:36:41 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10665 Ah, but equally qualified Armenian historians on Ottoman History, of which there are many, are to be immediately discounted by dint of the fact that they're Armenian, eh? This biased statement of 'heavy historians,' is equivalent to a stacked deck of cards.  Ah, but equally qualified Armenian historians on Ottoman History, of which there are many, are to be immediately discounted by dint of the fact that they’re Armenian, eh? This biased statement of ‘heavy historians,’ is equivalent to a stacked deck of cards. 

]]> By: Lazlee http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10467 Lazlee Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:07:54 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10467 Dan, I think the distinction is this.  Discussing or protesting unfair conditions or injustices is one thing.  However, openly advocating the violent action of a group that murders people is another.  The former is acceptable and to be encouraged, the latter is reprehensible and promotes nothing of societal value. Yes, Facebook is to be commended for remedying its error.  However, Facebook should not allow its complaint mechanisms to be used to silence people or groups that are not violating Facebook's terms of use just because someone doesn't like what they say or who they are.  In fact, using Facebook to do that should be a violation of its terms of use, if it isn't already. Dan, I think the distinction is this.  Discussing or protesting unfair conditions or injustices is one thing.  However, openly advocating the violent action of a group that murders people is another.  The former is acceptable and to be encouraged, the latter is reprehensible and promotes nothing of societal value.

Yes, Facebook is to be commended for remedying its error.  However, Facebook should not allow its complaint mechanisms to be used to silence people or groups that are not violating Facebook’s terms of use just because someone doesn’t like what they say or who they are.  In fact, using Facebook to do that should be a violation of its terms of use, if it isn’t already.

]]> By: Dean http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10319 Dean Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:25:22 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10319 "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - Dr. M.L. King Debate, discussion, discourse.  These are the peaceful revolutions, and if we as a country had maybe listened to the people we were manipulating and exploiting in the Middle East, the violent revolution they are trying to create wouldn't exist.  And if their statements and ideas are as hateful and wrongheaded as I'm sure you would correctly argue, then the worst that could happen is they are exposed for the ignorant bigots they are in the course of an intelligent dialog.  I cannot agree that silencing unpopular speech is the "right course of action" to take against any group who feels already ignored and abused, however misled they may be. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - Dr. M.L. King

Debate, discussion, discourse.  These are the peaceful revolutions, and if we as a country had maybe listened to the people we were manipulating and exploiting in the Middle East, the violent revolution they are trying to create wouldn’t exist. 

And if their statements and ideas are as hateful and wrongheaded as I’m sure you would correctly argue, then the worst that could happen is they are exposed for the ignorant bigots they are in the course of an intelligent dialog. 

I cannot agree that silencing unpopular speech is the "right course of action" to take against any group who feels already ignored and abused, however misled they may be.

]]> By: Michael van der Galien http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10311 Michael van der Galien Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:54 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10311 No, I disagree. If there was a pro-Al Qaeda Facebook group, Facebook should close it down for instance. No, I disagree. If there was a pro-Al Qaeda Facebook group, Facebook should close it down for instance.

]]> By: Dean http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10306 Dean Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:41:57 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10306 No no, I get that.  It was a good point, and I agree that debate shouldn't be closed down at all.  That includes debate about terrorism, don't you think? No no, I get that.  It was a good point, and I agree that debate shouldn’t be closed down at all.  That includes debate about terrorism, don’t you think?

]]> By: Michael van der Galien http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10301 Michael van der Galien Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:32:01 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10301 <blockquote>Lol, its ok to stifle debate about terrorism? </blockquote> Did you even <em>read </em>the article or what? Point is that there was <em>no</em> hatred going on, no racism, no glorification of terrorism, just debate about a controversial issue. In other words, it shouldn't have been closed down.

Lol, its ok to stifle debate about terrorism?

Did you even read the article or what?

Point is that there was no hatred going on, no racism, no glorification of terrorism, just debate about a controversial issue. In other words, it shouldn’t have been closed down.

]]> By: Dean http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10295 Dean Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:23:54 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/12/11/my-my-facebook-gives-in/#comment-10295 Lol, its ok to stifle debate about terrorism?  Where did that come from?  What could possibly be more relevant, urgent, and controversial than terrorism and our response to it in today's world? Unless...duh...if the R's didn't have the scary brown people to threaten the country and Congress with (see FISA reform, 2007 US Congress August Recess, and its lead up), how could they possibly get anything done?  That must be it.  Lol Lol, its ok to stifle debate about terrorism?  Where did that come from?  What could possibly be more relevant, urgent, and controversial than terrorism and our response to it in today’s world?

Unless…duh…if the R’s didn’t have the scary brown people to threaten the country and Congress with (see FISA reform, 2007 US Congress August Recess, and its lead up), how could they possibly get anything done?  That must be it.  Lol

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