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	<title>Comments on: Air Travel - Again</title>
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		<title>By: Interested</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4796</link>
		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
but he said something like “Hell no! I don’t want them to know what we’re doing with it! It’ll void any warranties we have!”
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lmao</description>
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but he said something like “Hell no! I don’t want them to know what we’re doing with it! It’ll void any warranties we have!”
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<p>lmao</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4798</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4798</guid>
		<description>And as the frog (we) remains in the pot, the heat is turned up a little bit more .............

At just what point is the average person going to say "Enough!" already?   Must we loose ALL of our privacy and freedom to travel for the sake of almost meaningless security theatre?</description>
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<p>At just what point is the average person going to say &#8220;Enough!&#8221; already?   Must we loose ALL of our privacy and freedom to travel for the sake of almost meaningless security theatre?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4797</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4797</guid>
		<description>And as the frog (we) remains in the pot, the heat is turned up a little bit more .............

At just what point is the average person going to say "Enough!" already?   Must we loose ALL of our privacy and freedom to travel for the sake of almost meaningless security theatre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as the frog (we) remains in the pot, the heat is turned up a little bit more &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>At just what point is the average person going to say &#8220;Enough!&#8221; already?   Must we loose ALL of our privacy and freedom to travel for the sake of almost meaningless security theatre?</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4794</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4794</guid>
		<description>Interested

Hoover flew the earlier version of the 690, a 500 called the Shrike.  I googled it out of interest!</description>
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<p>Hoover flew the earlier version of the 690, a 500 called the Shrike.  I googled it out of interest!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4795</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4795</guid>
		<description>Interested,

Yeah, I think Hoover did fly a 690 in his airshows for awhile!  Just a note of weird trivia about the 690 I was using, it was the former Air Force One for the former President of Tanzania (with the bar and bed stripped out and stretcher points put in!)  Great aircraft, and even though it was not meant to be used for bush work, it handled the work with no problems!  I tried to get my boss to call Commander so they could it as an advertisement for how tough their aircraft are, but he said something like "Hell no! I don't want them to know what we're doing with it!  It'll void any warranties we have!"</description>
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<p>Yeah, I think Hoover did fly a 690 in his airshows for awhile!  Just a note of weird trivia about the 690 I was using, it was the former Air Force One for the former President of Tanzania (with the bar and bed stripped out and stretcher points put in!)  Great aircraft, and even though it was not meant to be used for bush work, it handled the work with no problems!  I tried to get my boss to call Commander so they could it as an advertisement for how tough their aircraft are, but he said something like &#8220;Hell no! I don&#8217;t want them to know what we&#8217;re doing with it!  It&#8217;ll void any warranties we have!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Interested</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4800</link>
		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4800</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
 I suppose I could have used a number of other administration “highlights” to make my point, but this one seemed rather apropos.
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No it didn't

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The Bush administration has typically appointed its friends into important positions which is why a guy like “Brownie” was in charge of FEMA in the first place. In this administration. real world experience related to the task at hand counts little, while connection and partisanship count a lot.
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And?

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Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i.e. the private plane concourse? Now lastly, if such an incident did occur would it surprise you to find out that the federal guy in charge had no previous relevant experience but had instead worked for the Arabian Horse Association?
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Finally you put one and fifty together into the same thought process, ignoring the entire bit on local &#38; state failings in Katrina too.  And I guess overlook that this administration's timeframe is running out pretty darn fast and a post like that would be subject to a Democrat oversight.

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Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i
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Did you expect terrorists would attack the heaviest level of security areas or something?</description>
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 I suppose I could have used a number of other administration “highlights” to make my point, but this one seemed rather apropos.
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<p>No it didn&#8217;t</p>
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The Bush administration has typically appointed its friends into important positions which is why a guy like “Brownie” was in charge of FEMA in the first place. In this administration. real world experience related to the task at hand counts little, while connection and partisanship count a lot.
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<p>And?</p>
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Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i.e. the private plane concourse? Now lastly, if such an incident did occur would it surprise you to find out that the federal guy in charge had no previous relevant experience but had instead worked for the Arabian Horse Association?
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<p>Finally you put one and fifty together into the same thought process, ignoring the entire bit on local &amp; state failings in Katrina too.  And I guess overlook that this administration&#8217;s timeframe is running out pretty darn fast and a post like that would be subject to a Democrat oversight.</p>
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Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i
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<p>Did you expect terrorists would attack the heaviest level of security areas or something?</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4799</link>
		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4799</guid>
		<description>Pat, sorry about that.  The sarcasm went right by me at midnight (having been up since well before dawn).  But this morning it's obvious.  Well done, actually.  Sigh.

I'd promise to avoid commenting when half asleep in future...except I know myself too well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, sorry about that.  The sarcasm went right by me at midnight (having been up since well before dawn).  But this morning it&#8217;s obvious.  Well done, actually.  Sigh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d promise to avoid commenting when half asleep in future&#8230;except I know myself too well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Et Al</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4801</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Et Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4801</guid>
		<description>Interested &lt;blockquote&gt;Still makes no sense, unless of course you are just searching for a spot to inject a partisan statement? How does that statement have anything to do with private citizens taking care of their own air travel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One does not have to be a partisan to recognize the FEMA response to Katrina for what it was...a disaster! I suppose I could have used a number of other administration "highlights" to make my point, but this one seemed rather apropos. You didn't get it, so let me flesh it out a bit...

The Bush administration has typically appointed its friends into important positions which is why a guy like "Brownie" was in charge of FEMA in the first place. In this administration. real world experience related to the task at hand counts little, while connection and partisanship count a lot. Is it then any wonder that FEMA failed post Katrina? Is it any wonder that airport security (how many years after 9/11?) means discarded hair gel vials, long frustrating lines, and possible strip searches for the everyday kind of passenger, while a very determined and cool headed individual who did a little research could just walk a bomb onto a flight. Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i.e. the private plane concourse? Now lastly, if such an incident did occur would it surprise you to find out that the federal guy in charge had no previous relevant experience but had instead worked for the Arabian Horse Association?

Wouldn't you find that both a bit curious and...well... typical of this administration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interested<br />
<blockquote>Still makes no sense, unless of course you are just searching for a spot to inject a partisan statement? How does that statement have anything to do with private citizens taking care of their own air travel.</p></blockquote>
<p>One does not have to be a partisan to recognize the FEMA response to Katrina for what it was&#8230;a disaster! I suppose I could have used a number of other administration &#8220;highlights&#8221; to make my point, but this one seemed rather apropos. You didn&#8217;t get it, so let me flesh it out a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>The Bush administration has typically appointed its friends into important positions which is why a guy like &#8220;Brownie&#8221; was in charge of FEMA in the first place. In this administration. real world experience related to the task at hand counts little, while connection and partisanship count a lot. Is it then any wonder that FEMA failed post Katrina? Is it any wonder that airport security (how many years after 9/11?) means discarded hair gel vials, long frustrating lines, and possible strip searches for the everyday kind of passenger, while a very determined and cool headed individual who did a little research could just walk a bomb onto a flight. Would it be any wonder then to see a terrorist attack where airport security is the weakest, i.e. the private plane concourse? Now lastly, if such an incident did occur would it surprise you to find out that the federal guy in charge had no previous relevant experience but had instead worked for the Arabian Horse Association?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you find that both a bit curious and&#8230;well&#8230; typical of this administration?</p>
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		<title>By: Interested</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4802</link>
		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4802</guid>
		<description>Jim

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Interested…Let me refresh your memory…
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Still makes no sense, unless of course you are just searching for a spot to inject a partisan statement?  How does that statement have anything to do with private citizens taking care of their own air travel.

Pat
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 I usually am required to board a small aircraft (AeroCommander 690)
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Nice plane.  Wasn't it Hoover that flew an Aero Commander during his stunts?

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and no problems, well almost no problems till some idiot Doctor or Lawyer with a big ego tries to cut infront of everyone in the landing pattern.
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I've known a few of those in my day, saved one of their butts from a gear up landing once.</description>
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Interested…Let me refresh your memory…
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<p>Still makes no sense, unless of course you are just searching for a spot to inject a partisan statement?  How does that statement have anything to do with private citizens taking care of their own air travel.</p>
<p>Pat</p>
<p> I usually am required to board a small aircraft (AeroCommander 690)</p>
<p>Nice plane.  Wasn&#8217;t it Hoover that flew an Aero Commander during his stunts?</p>
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and no problems, well almost no problems till some idiot Doctor or Lawyer with a big ego tries to cut infront of everyone in the landing pattern.
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<p>I&#8217;ve known a few of those in my day, saved one of their butts from a gear up landing once.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4803</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://poligazette.com/2007/10/25/air-travel-again/#comment-4803</guid>
		<description>WJ, one more thing, I am a pilot as well, and as long as the aircraft being flown stays under 10,000 ft and out of Class A, B, C and D airspace there is no need to even communicate with ATC, especially if you are using a non-towered airport.  I do it all the time.  Oh yeah, gotta stay out of restricted areas too, like the areas around nuke plants and military bases, Washington D.C. and so on.

So to the point that many small planes will require more AT controllers, I'm not so sure about that, a good example is the traffic into and out of the Nut Tree Airport here in Northern California, very crowded sky with no ATC, and no problems, well almost no problems till some idiot Doctor or Lawyer with a big ego tries to cut infront of everyone in the landing pattern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WJ, one more thing, I am a pilot as well, and as long as the aircraft being flown stays under 10,000 ft and out of Class A, B, C and D airspace there is no need to even communicate with ATC, especially if you are using a non-towered airport.  I do it all the time.  Oh yeah, gotta stay out of restricted areas too, like the areas around nuke plants and military bases, Washington D.C. and so on.</p>
<p>So to the point that many small planes will require more AT controllers, I&#8217;m not so sure about that, a good example is the traffic into and out of the Nut Tree Airport here in Northern California, very crowded sky with no ATC, and no problems, well almost no problems till some idiot Doctor or Lawyer with a big ego tries to cut infront of everyone in the landing pattern.</p>
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