Comments on: Hillary: $5000 for Every Baby! (and a Car in Every Garage) http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/ Politics and world events from a moderately liberal and conservative perspective Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:53:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Chris http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7236 Chris Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:50:14 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7236 Clinton made a good point: <blockquote>She argued that wealthy people "get to have all kinds of tax incentives to save, but most people can't afford to do that."</blockquote> Clinton made a good point:

She argued that wealthy people “get to have all kinds of tax incentives to save, but most people can’t afford to do that.”

]]> By: jeff moss http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7239 jeff moss Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:42:10 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7239 i absolutely love what alan said. i absolutely love what alan said.

]]> By: Alan http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7195 Alan Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:20:29 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7195 Tim Smith, How cynical you are! Of course it has nothing to do with the "Long War"! It is merely intended to encourage even MORE illegal aliens to come across the border, bail our Social Security, and build the Democratic voter base. Let's not impugn Ms. Clinton's generosity regarding this wonderfully altruistic program! Why, I think they ought to throw in a free puppy and apple pie too! Tim Smith,

How cynical you are! Of course it has nothing to do with the “Long War”!

It is merely intended to encourage even MORE illegal aliens to come across the border, bail our Social Security, and build the Democratic voter base.

Let’s not impugn Ms. Clinton’s generosity regarding this wonderfully altruistic program! Why, I think they ought to throw in a free puppy and apple pie too!

]]> By: Alan http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7197 Alan Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:19:16 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7197 Tim Smith, How cynical you are! Of course it has nothing to do with the "Long War"! It is merely intended to encourage even MORE illegal aliens to come across the border, bail our Social Security, and build the Democratic voter base. Let's not impugn Ms. Clinton's generosity regarding this wonderfully altruistic program! Why, I think they ought to throw in a free puppy and apple pie too! Tim Smith,

How cynical you are! Of course it has nothing to do with the “Long War”!

It is merely intended to encourage even MORE illegal aliens to come across the border, bail our Social Security, and build the Democratic voter base.

Let’s not impugn Ms. Clinton’s generosity regarding this wonderfully altruistic program! Why, I think they ought to throw in a free puppy and apple pie too!

]]> By: tim smith http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7193 tim smith Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:25:11 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7193 I was ready to vote for hillary until I heard about the 5000 dollars, now I will have to find someone else to vote for. What about people that dont have kids, what do they get? Or is it a way to boost the population of the united states for the next war. I was ready to vote for hillary until I heard about the 5000 dollars, now I will have to find someone else to vote for. What about people that dont have kids, what do they get? Or is it a way to boost the population of the united states for the next war.

]]> By: G G Smith http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7191 G G Smith Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:01:11 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7191 If Hillary gets elected, the US will be a socalist country by the time she get out of office. She has nevefr worked in her life and thinks money grows on trees. She has no idea of the tax burden on working people. Just another liberal. If the poor wants money, let them go out and get a job like me. If Hillary gets elected, the US will be a socalist country by the time she get out of office. She has nevefr worked in her life and thinks money grows on trees. She has no idea of the tax burden on working people. Just another liberal. If the poor wants money, let them go out and get a job like me.

]]> By: Hillary’s Baby Plan Redux « The Van Der Galiën Gazette http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7201 Hillary’s Baby Plan Redux « The Van Der Galiën Gazette Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:15:40 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7201 [...] The Chicago Tribune just published an analysis of Hillary’s plan that is rather similar to mine.  Their conclusions?  Well, the editorial is titled “Clinton’s baby [...] […] The Chicago Tribune just published an analysis of Hillary’s plan that is rather similar to mine.  Their conclusions?  Well, the editorial is titled “Clinton’s baby […]

]]> By: Black Shards, In Your Eyes, Blinding » Hillary’s Baby Plan Redux http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7198 Black Shards, In Your Eyes, Blinding » Hillary’s Baby Plan Redux Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:13:40 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7198 [...] Chicago Tribune just published an analysis of Hillary’s plan that is rather similar to mine.  Their conclusions?  Well, the editorial is titled "Clinton’s baby [...] […] Chicago Tribune just published an analysis of Hillary’s plan that is rather similar to mine.  Their conclusions?  Well, the editorial is titled "Clinton’s baby […]

]]> By: marc moore http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7219 marc moore Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:09:08 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7219 <blockquote>I think this proposal will go something like this. The money will be put into a “fund” the first 3-4 years. All of a sudden, Congress will see a big pool of money that is being “wasted”. They will move it to the General Fund and create all kinds of “wonderful” ways to spend this windfall of money. Now 18 years later when the first kid wants to withdraw, there’s no money in the kitty and now Congress has to pass a tax in order to keep the “fund” solvent and to create a “lockbox” for future generations.</blockquote> Eric, that's exactly how I think it would go. Better just not to even start down that road.

I think this proposal will go something like this. The money will be put into a “fund” the first 3-4 years. All of a sudden, Congress will see a big pool of money that is being “wasted”. They will move it to the General Fund and create all kinds of “wonderful” ways to spend this windfall of money. Now 18 years later when the first kid wants to withdraw, there’s no money in the kitty and now Congress has to pass a tax in order to keep the “fund” solvent and to create a “lockbox” for future generations.

Eric, that’s exactly how I think it would go. Better just not to even start down that road.

]]> By: Eric http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7235 Eric Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:20:01 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/09/29/hillary-5000-for-every-baby-and-a-car-in-every-garage/#comment-7235 So let’s just look at history for a moment here. Social Security was created to give Americans the ability to have a retirement fund setup and managed by the Feds to bridge the gap between what employers were paying at the time and what would be needed in the future. How long was it before the lawmakers starting raiding that fund for things it was never intended for? I think this proposal will go something like this. The money will be put into a “fund” the first 3-4 years. All of a sudden, Congress will see a big pool of money that is being “wasted”. They will move it to the General Fund and create all kinds of “wonderful” ways to spend this windfall of money. Now 18 years later when the first kid wants to withdraw, there’s no money in the kitty and now Congress has to pass a tax in order to keep the “fund” solvent and to create a “lockbox” for future generations. Now here’s the next question. Hillary makes this proposal just as the Baby Boomers are about to retire in great numbers. The current estimates show that Social Security will begin paying out more than it takes in during 2012. The whole system will collapse in 2029 if something isn’t done about it. Should we take this $5000 per kid, dump it in Social Security and call it good? Then instead of failing the seniors, who should have known better and saved for their own retirement, we will have failed the poor, innocent children! So let’s just look at history for a moment here. Social Security was created to give Americans the ability to have a retirement fund setup and managed by the Feds to bridge the gap between what employers were paying at the time and what would be needed in the future. How long was it before the lawmakers starting raiding that fund for things it was never intended for?

I think this proposal will go something like this. The money will be put into a “fund” the first 3-4 years. All of a sudden, Congress will see a big pool of money that is being “wasted”. They will move it to the General Fund and create all kinds of “wonderful” ways to spend this windfall of money. Now 18 years later when the first kid wants to withdraw, there’s no money in the kitty and now Congress has to pass a tax in order to keep the “fund” solvent and to create a “lockbox” for future generations.

Now here’s the next question. Hillary makes this proposal just as the Baby Boomers are about to retire in great numbers. The current estimates show that Social Security will begin paying out more than it takes in during 2012. The whole system will collapse in 2029 if something isn’t done about it. Should we take this $5000 per kid, dump it in Social Security and call it good? Then instead of failing the seniors, who should have known better and saved for their own retirement, we will have failed the poor, innocent children!

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