Comments on: The Mormon Problem http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/ Politics and world events from a moderately liberal and conservative perspective Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:28:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jettboy http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5286 Jettboy Thu, 31 May 2007 22:24:35 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5286 "No I really feel that the party will Reject Romney and Guilani when Fred Thompson enters the fray because the Republican party represents the conservative values of Christians and will continue to do so. Those who do not like it can find the exit." Ultimately, this attitude will make the Republican party what the Democratic party almost was - in decline. As I said at another place: If that is what ends up happening, I say bring it on! They will end up dispirited by their own bigotry and deserve Hillary/Obama/whoever gets into office. As a conservative it will be sad for me, but my respect for fellow Republican conservatives has gone down hill since the degree of bigotry and self-centeredness has proven so deep. I am not saying the liberal MSM have not been equally bigoted, but at least they are consistant in hating all forms of faith (and I would add conservative viewpoints). With a large segment of the Republican conservatives, it is becoming more plain that they are not looking for a moral and ethical political nation with respect for the Constitution. They are proving (sadly) that the MSM might be correct that they are trying to create a theocratic (vs. simply religious)United States. Remember, the more you push people out, the less people will be in. “No I really feel that the party will Reject Romney and Guilani when Fred Thompson enters the fray because the Republican party represents the conservative values of Christians and will continue to do so.

Those who do not like it can find the exit.”

Ultimately, this attitude will make the Republican party what the Democratic party almost was - in decline. As I said at another place:

If that is what ends up happening, I say bring it on! They will end up dispirited by their own bigotry and deserve Hillary/Obama/whoever gets into office. As a conservative it will be sad for me, but my respect for fellow Republican conservatives has gone down hill since the degree of bigotry and self-centeredness has proven so deep.

I am not saying the liberal MSM have not been equally bigoted, but at least they are consistant in hating all forms of faith (and I would add conservative viewpoints). With a large segment of the Republican conservatives, it is becoming more plain that they are not looking for a moral and ethical political nation with respect for the Constitution. They are proving (sadly) that the MSM might be correct that they are trying to create a theocratic (vs. simply religious)United States.

Remember, the more you push people out, the less people will be in.

]]> By: lthomas http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5288 lthomas Thu, 31 May 2007 02:31:36 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5288 Also what I find ironic is that a conservative movement whose very definition is to reject CHANGE for changes sake is being asked to change in order to go forward. Funny. Also what I find ironic is that a conservative movement whose very definition is to reject CHANGE for changes sake is being asked to change in order to go forward.

Funny.

]]> By: David http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5290 David Wed, 30 May 2007 19:33:22 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5290 Ithomas, I am not convinced that either US party has "core social beliefs". The current positions did not really exist in the 1970s and who knows if they will still be there in 10 years time. My own feeling is that the "religious right" is in decline. This means that Republicans will not feel the need to give them any policy decisions. Similarly the Democrats policies are likely to shift a bit because while radical atheism may be popular at Daily Kos it is a big vote loser in the real world. If the Democrats feel that they can get votes by allowing candidates more leeway on abortion or gay marriage they might just try. Ithomas, I am not convinced that either US party has “core social beliefs”. The current positions did not really exist in the 1970s and who knows if they will still be there in 10 years time. My own feeling is that the “religious right” is in decline. This means that Republicans will not feel the need to give them any policy decisions. Similarly the Democrats policies are likely to shift a bit because while radical atheism may be popular at Daily Kos it is a big vote loser in the real world. If the Democrats feel that they can get votes by allowing candidates more leeway on abortion or gay marriage they might just try.

]]> By: lthomas http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5292 lthomas Wed, 30 May 2007 19:04:53 +0000 http://poligazette.com/2007/05/30/the-mormon-problem/#comment-5292 I fail to understand why the conservative party which embraces christian values has to abandon its principals because it looses an election? If anyone is opposed to Christian values then their are two parties for you. Democrats and Libertarians. Why is no one asking them to abandon their Christian values? AFter all they are all jockeying to make everyone know that they are christians or catholics or whatever faith they embrace. No I really feel that the party will Reject Romney and Guilani when Fred Thompson enters the fray because the Republican party represents the conservative values of Christians and will continue to do so. Those who do not like it can find the exit. This is akin to asking the Democrats to embrace Anti Gay Legislation and Striking down Roe v Wade. Aint gonna happen because that is not who they are. They lost election after election but they did not abandon their core social beliefs just to win an election I fail to understand why the conservative party which embraces christian values has to abandon its principals because it looses an election?

If anyone is opposed to Christian values then their are two parties for you. Democrats and Libertarians.

Why is no one asking them to abandon their Christian values? AFter all they are all jockeying to make everyone know that they are christians or catholics or whatever faith they embrace.

No I really feel that the party will Reject Romney and Guilani when Fred Thompson enters the fray because the Republican party represents the conservative values of Christians and will continue to do so.

Those who do not like it can find the exit.

This is akin to asking the Democrats to embrace Anti Gay Legislation and Striking down Roe v Wade. Aint gonna happen because that is not who they are. They lost election after election but they did not abandon their core social beliefs just to win an election

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